Dan Armstrong (London) serial numbers
15 February 2010
Sometime in 1976-77, I decided that my second hand Strat was just too thin sounding to produce the range of sounds that I wanted. I sold it (yup, a 1966 Strat) for £180 and approached a London based guitar maker called Stephen Delft to build me the ultimate guitar - something between a Gibson and a Fender.
As it happened, Stephen Delft had just acquired a bunch of Dan Armstrong (London) guitars because the business had closed down and I was persuaded to part with £250 for one of them. It was my main guitar for many years and was the one I used exclusively on the Caedmon 1978 album.
I've got a guitar, let’s devalue it!
Of course, being me, I promptly customised it, shaving away a rib cage contour on the back and re-varnishing the whole thing in polyurethane, including the brazilian rosewood fingerboard. What can I say, it seemed like a good idea at the time.
Over the years, the brutal refinishing in a freezing cold Edinburgh flat started to show itself. Blotchy white blooms appeared under the varnish. With the advent of a new Caedmon album and the discovery of an experimental Dan Armstrong finish in white (nice!) I decided it was time to revive the faithful old bugger.
Over the last week, I've stripped away the old polyurethane varnish using Nitromors ‘Craftsman’ Polyurethane stripper. Rather naively, I expected the stripper to remove my polyurethane and leave the original epoxy resin finish intact. When that proved not to be the case, I just attacked the whole guitar with gusto. And that's when I discovered the serial numbers.
Step back
Underneath the truss rod cover of a Dan Armstrong (London) is written the serial number, 4459 in my case. it was also written in the control cavity, although it's always possible that was me, 30 odd years ago. This means that it was the 59th guitar built in the 4th quarter of 1974. This is a tiny bit weird because I bought it as a brand new guitar at least two years later - well, if my memory serves me right <cough>.
And forward again
But as I stripped away all the gubbins from my previous foray into guitar tech, I discovered the original stamped serial number in the control cavity. Does that look like 4459 to you? And if not, what does it look like?
Comments
James
2010.04.14 02:22
#1
Heh - I have plenty of experience in devaluing. I stripped the sunburst finish from my 1966 Fender strat in the 1970s before I sold it for £180 to buy the Dan Armstrong. And more recently, destroyed an album worth around £500. http://www.caedmonsreturn.com/news/breaking-news
chris buxton
2010.04.13 01:56
#2
Dear James, you've cheered me up no end. I own the 'Dan' that yours was smooching on Steve Robinson's studio couch a couple of weeks ago. It was a good feeling to be trawling the 'net' and find a pic' of my baby out of the blue. The main reason it cheered me though, is that as I'm sure you already know, they only made about 330 London guitars, and I've often wondered how many of them are in original condition? Basically mine is, apart from a refret and a rewire but I'm sure a lot of them will have been seriously altered, which brings me to your youthful indiscretion of the comfort contour. Makes mine all the rarer. I'm waiting for the day when serious collectors cotton on to these guitars. I've had this one 23 yrs and I love it but I'm getting older and one day some pension money would be nice. Dare we imagine the day when 'Dans' enter the '59 Standard sphere of value? after all, they are twice as rare. It's late now so I'll buzz off, but as a last thought, do you know about Ian Halsey? If not let me know, we might track him down together. Regards, Chris.
Julian Wernick
2011.03.09 14:47
#3
I went the other way. My Dan Armstrong broke its neck during a gig in 1978.
Replaced with a Strat for £250. turned out (much later..ty Bob Barry) to be a 1962. Have been searching for a Dan Armstrong for 3 years. Long lost love
Stewart Denny
2011.12.24 18:50
#4
Well my Danny is an original London serial number 4219
It broke its neck around 1982 and i sourced new neck from ian halsey who also had some basses and guitars partly completed , neck and body , schallers fully finished but no electrics or pickguard and the short horn , unlike mine which has horns the same size
Ive had it completely moded , maple cap , two gibson humbuckers , binding and finished in tobacco sunburst , looks wonderful , sounds wonderful
No doubt killed its value but its my Danny ive had since new 38 years ago .
Is Ian Halsey still alive ? , anyone with his address ?
Regards
Stewart
Mal Jefferson
2013.10.05 21:00
#5
I got one from Terry Kennaugh of Supercharge who got it from Eric Clapton. Wish I had a pic of him with it. Got it in the late 70s and used it in cabaret for 30 years. Still plays great. Original frets - crack in the neck repaired by pro luthier. Last one I saw sold on eBay was for 1200. Thinking of selling this. Have got pics.
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